The Rule of Air Management Q & A

Captain Mike Gagliano and Lieutenant Steve Bernocco of the Seattle (WA) Fire Department respond to questions submitted by viewers of their recent Webcast,“The Rule of Air Management (ROAM).”观看此免费演示文稿的存档版本www.sacthai.com/webcasts

1.我们收到有关书籍的多个问题,“消防服务的空中管理。”In short, it contains more than 600 pages of comprehensive training on air management, including everything from hands-on drills to implementation of ideas for departments of any size or configuration. There are chapters on the overview and philosophy of air management, as well as straightforward descriptions of tactics. The book also has contributions from some of the leading thinkers in the fire service, including Alan Brunacini, Vincent Dunn, Dave Dodson, John Mittendorf, and many others.

Pennwell has agreed to give a 10 percent discount to folks whoview the webcast。要使用的代码是IPG-AIR08。你可以在线订购书or give them a call at -800-752-9764 (toll free).

2.关于新的逃生罐有多个问题。我们认为将这些作为“最后机会”选项没有问题。这就是应该的。如果消防员将它们用作正常的空中管理策略的一部分,那么他们将成为我们不会认可的东西。诸如“作弊者”和过滤呼吸之类的东西是捷径,不必要地将消防员暴露于致癌物中,并为空中管理策略奠定了糟糕的基础。采用漫游。做正确的方法。逃生罐子是,如果经过适当的测试,则可以在其他一切失败时提供一些急需的空气。

3. Some instructors are advocating that firefighters get out at 50 percent of their remaining air or use the 1/3 method (1/3 in, 1/3 out, 1/3 reserve). These are well-intentioned solutions, but we feel they don’t provide the flexibility necessary for a wide array of situations you face on the fireground.

You will rarely need 50 percent of your bottle to exit a structure. The ROAM allows for those instances when you do need that much air by training you to monitor your air gauge and make an appropriate time-to-exit decision, no matter what the conditions. In larger structures, heavy debris, or intense conditions, you will obviously need to be more conservative and leave sooner. In your typical house fire, 50 percent is way too early and will waste a lot of valuable worktime. The same applies to the 1/3 rule, although that is much closer to being reasonable.

We have found that firefighters can be trained to make their time-to-exit decision based on an overriding principleof keeping the last 25 percent untouched. If the goal in regards to air management is to hit the door and have your bell ring a few steps outside, that gives you something easy with which to gauge your actions..

We don’t believe the firefighters should react like Pavlov’s dog to the ringing of a bell or some set formula that works on paper but not in the dynamic arena of the fireground. Use the ROAM; it works, and anyone can use it.

4. There were numerous questions about hydrogen cyanide. Please check out the188金宝搏是正规吗magazine article,“The Breath from Hell”(March 2006). Also, go the Cyanide Poisoning Treatment Coalition’s Web site for some outstanding training material–all free of charge:http://www.cyanidepoisoning.org/

5.关于跳过呼吸的好处的问题非常好。我们详细说明您可以在我们的书中使用的一些方法。我们详细描述的是:


  • 跳过呼吸。呼吸额外呼吸

  • Count breathing

  • Reilly Emergency Breathing Technique (REBT)–also called “hum breathing”

They all work well depending on the situation and what you’ve practiced. The bottom line is that unless you have kept your emergency reserve intact, there isn’t going to be anything left for you to skip or count or hum. In our drills, firefighters who have kept their reserve intact have been able to routinely make it last, using these techniques, for 30 minutes or more. Some have gone over an hour. That would increase the chances of the RIT getting to you exponentially.

6. The Yob video is available from the Seattle (WA) Fire Department. It is a three-part video entitled “Firefighter Survival.” You can request this DVD by emailingsfdrcpt@seattle.gov。你可以also download the video here:www.seattle.gov/fire/dvd/

The Tarver video may still be available by contacting thePhoenix (AZ) Fire Department。我们无权分发它。ABBT视频可从最勇敢的在线获得:www.thebravestonline.com

7.我们不认为应对消防员进行低空警报的纪律处分。请记住,您试图撤消多年的恶劣SCBA行为;对于我们大多数老狗来说,这并非一夜之间发生。

In Seattle, we have handled this situation in a more proactive manner. If you use your first bottle at a fire and get out before your alarm hits, you have worked an appropriate work cycle and can then change out and work a second cycle. Then you go to rehab.

但是,如果您在低空警报中工作,现在您已经超出了适当的工作周期,并在一瓶后被送往康复。没有人喜欢。

You also must contend with firefighters all over the structure who are checking with you to see if you’re OK. The low-air alarms are infrequent on our fireground now, compared to just a few years ago when everyone’s bell went off inside.

8. The question regarding should we train, do overhaul, and so forth while on air is outstanding. And the answer across the board is YES!

Not breathing air during overhaul is insane. The gases are at some of their most toxic levels because of smoldering and incomplete combustion, and the cancerous particulates are being stirred up all around you. This one is not rocket science, gang. Do stupid stuff, and bad things are typically going to happen.

就培训而言,我们认为您应该尽可能多地训练。使用空气,并在所有演习中练习漫游。使良好的空中管​​理政策成为您设计的每个演习的主要内容。您将执行您的训练方式或不训练的方式。

9.关于瓶子尺寸,我们是45分钟瓶的拥护者。我们觉得30分钟的瓶子正在出门。我们将鼓励所有进行新购买的部门进行切换。60很好(我们将其用于RIT),但是我们认为45给出的工作周期是最好的选择。

The 45 allows you to have all the air you are used to with the 30, while keeping that 25 percent intact.

这是底线:无论您使用哪种尺寸的瓶子,都要保留最后25%的紧急情况,然后像您拥有的设备一样疯狂地训练,以疯狂地做出良好的时间决定。最后25%不应用于正常操作,适合您的紧急情况。

10. In our high-rise operations, we typically set up staging two floors below the fire floor. That is where we also place our RIT/RIG teams.

11.我们是搜索线或tethers的主要支持者。它们不是某些人指出的灵丹妙药:在真正的火灾中,它们可能是纠结的烂摊子,烧毁并为其他船员提供障碍。它们没有在YOB事件中使用。像每个工具一样,如果您对其进行培训并知道它们的好处和限制,它们是无价的。如果您正确地工作,那么拥有一条线条使您安全的行为是一个好主意。

如果您要呼吸过热的空气或有毒的烟雾,则不会使用线路。确保在生命中最糟糕的一天发生时,无论您做什么,您都会完好无损。

12. There were multiple questions about new innovations to SCBAs such head’s-up displays, buddy-breathing attachments, and alarms that signal various levels of air consumption. Here are some thoughts:

Head’s-up displays are great as long as you know what you’re getting. The little lights that flash typically indicate a range of air (like 75 to 50 percent), and that gap is mighty large when you are talking about your lifeblood. We suggest you make a checking of your air gauge the first priority for knowing what your air level is. That’s what the ROAM advocate.

只要好友呼吸附件是最后的选择,而不是您用作标准航空管理计划的一部分的东西。您应该集中精力确保您不违反紧急储备;然后,好友呼吸将成为很少使用(如果有的话)的东西。如果您到达必须使用好友呼吸的地步,那么某些事情就出错了,就像逃生罐一样。

We want an alarm-free fireground. A small buzzer or something that alerts you to being at 50 percent or something like that would be fine. Again, we don’t want to be Pavlov’s dog. We should be proactively checking our own air and not relying on a gizmo to do it for us. Technology typically fails firefighters at the worst time possible. Put your destiny in your own hands, and train to take care of yourself.

13.一个很好的问题提出了为什么YOB情况下的船员没有将他从大火中驱逐出境。它可以追溯到当您听到整个火场的低空警报声时,它存在的“虚假警报心态”。没有人对他们付出任何关注。这就是这里发生的事情。

Thanks to everyone who watched the webcast. Feel free to contact us if you have any further questions. You can get our email information atmanageyourair.com

The Seattle Guys

Webcast sponsored bySperian Fire

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